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	<title>Comments on: eBay Inc Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2008 Results</title>
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		<title>By: IR2.0 Social Media for Information Equality &#171; B2B Marketing Savvy: ScoopDog&#39;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>IR2.0 Social Media for Information Equality &#171; B2B Marketing Savvy: ScoopDog&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] eBay blogs on earnings  One of the most innovative approaches. eBay official corporate Twitter account, used in part for promoting earnings calls example from eBay, Friday 3/6/09 by eBay’s own “internal reporter”, Richard Brewer-Hay. During earnings calls, he tweeted live and is empowered to shape the brand while adding perspective and personality. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] eBay blogs on earnings  One of the most innovative approaches. eBay official corporate Twitter account, used in part for promoting earnings calls example from eBay, Friday 3/6/09 by eBay’s own “internal reporter”, Richard Brewer-Hay. During earnings calls, he tweeted live and is empowered to shape the brand while adding perspective and personality. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Davey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amber,

What drew buyers and sellers to ebay, besides Pierre&#039;s initial spamming of USENET, was purely word-of-mouth accolades. Ebay was exploding before they ran their first media ads, including the infamous &quot;IT&quot; campaign.

What do you think that on-the-street word-of-mouth advertising is saying about ebay now? What is ebay doing to counter that? Besides punishing small sellers, that is, which hastens the bad advertising. What do you say to your friends when you sell something here for the first time and get a 21 day hold, or your listing taken down by a VeRO member?

One official comment I&#039;d like to see is a comparison of Amazon&#039;s 4Q results with ebay&#039;s, which proves it isn&#039;t &quot;the economy.&quot; Resale and discount houses are doing really well in this environment. I would&#039;ve thought that ebay would be booming. They&#039;re not? How about disruptively innovating back to what they were in the early 2000&#039;s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amber,</p>
<p>What drew buyers and sellers to ebay, besides Pierre&#8217;s initial spamming of USENET, was purely word-of-mouth accolades. Ebay was exploding before they ran their first media ads, including the infamous &#8220;IT&#8221; campaign.</p>
<p>What do you think that on-the-street word-of-mouth advertising is saying about ebay now? What is ebay doing to counter that? Besides punishing small sellers, that is, which hastens the bad advertising. What do you say to your friends when you sell something here for the first time and get a 21 day hold, or your listing taken down by a VeRO member?</p>
<p>One official comment I&#8217;d like to see is a comparison of Amazon&#8217;s 4Q results with ebay&#8217;s, which proves it isn&#8217;t &#8220;the economy.&#8221; Resale and discount houses are doing really well in this environment. I would&#8217;ve thought that ebay would be booming. They&#8217;re not? How about disruptively innovating back to what they were in the early 2000&#8242;s?</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;we made a strategic shift away from mass marketing to drive customer acquisition to focus more on buyer and customer loyalty programs.&lt;/i&gt;

Yep, Jose, you did. To your detriment.

I even saw the transcript of the earnings call where an analyst asked about this very thing and received, quite frankly, a very entertaining tap-dance and standard non-answer.

Currently, eBay is doing absolutely nothing to lure people to the site. NEW ebayers that is. Nor are they really attracting people who have signed up as members then either forgot or decided to give up.

Television ads remind people about the site. Coupons and loyalty programs only work for people who already shop here. And I&#039;ll bet that instead of increasing the amount of money spent, they simply substituted those coupons for what they would have spent anyway.

Television ads bring in buyers who may not normally think about Ebay as an alternative to the mall...people who DON&#039;T spend a lot of time online. People who aren&#039;t going to be using Live Search (way too complicated for many older shoppers), who aren&#039;t going to be reached by the keyword purchases and banner internet ads. People who aren&#039;t going to be listening to the radio ads--because in rural America (where I happen to live) radio has little to no presence. 

Ironically, the people in my area spend a LOT of money on catalog and internet shopping per capita. A LOT. Why? Because we don&#039;t have a Walmart. We don&#039;t have a mall. And our demographic isn&#039;t unique. 

Ebay made NO attempt to reach any of the rural Americans like me. 

Skipping TV ads didn&#039;t look like you were being smarter with your marketing budget. It made you look cheap and desperate.

And, just to sum it up for you, traffic means nothing if those visitors aren&#039;t translating into buyers. So being #1 in unique visitors is worthless unless those visitors buy HERE. They didn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>we made a strategic shift away from mass marketing to drive customer acquisition to focus more on buyer and customer loyalty programs.</i></p>
<p>Yep, Jose, you did. To your detriment.</p>
<p>I even saw the transcript of the earnings call where an analyst asked about this very thing and received, quite frankly, a very entertaining tap-dance and standard non-answer.</p>
<p>Currently, eBay is doing absolutely nothing to lure people to the site. NEW ebayers that is. Nor are they really attracting people who have signed up as members then either forgot or decided to give up.</p>
<p>Television ads remind people about the site. Coupons and loyalty programs only work for people who already shop here. And I&#8217;ll bet that instead of increasing the amount of money spent, they simply substituted those coupons for what they would have spent anyway.</p>
<p>Television ads bring in buyers who may not normally think about Ebay as an alternative to the mall&#8230;people who DON&#8217;T spend a lot of time online. People who aren&#8217;t going to be using Live Search (way too complicated for many older shoppers), who aren&#8217;t going to be reached by the keyword purchases and banner internet ads. People who aren&#8217;t going to be listening to the radio ads&#8211;because in rural America (where I happen to live) radio has little to no presence. </p>
<p>Ironically, the people in my area spend a LOT of money on catalog and internet shopping per capita. A LOT. Why? Because we don&#8217;t have a Walmart. We don&#8217;t have a mall. And our demographic isn&#8217;t unique. </p>
<p>Ebay made NO attempt to reach any of the rural Americans like me. </p>
<p>Skipping TV ads didn&#8217;t look like you were being smarter with your marketing budget. It made you look cheap and desperate.</p>
<p>And, just to sum it up for you, traffic means nothing if those visitors aren&#8217;t translating into buyers. So being #1 in unique visitors is worthless unless those visitors buy HERE. They didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Candy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll make this short since my posts aren&#039;t going thru.  Tony - I agree with you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll make this short since my posts aren&#8217;t going thru.  Tony &#8211; I agree with you!</p>
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		<title>By: Candy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...either my post was gobbled up by the internet monster or I&#039;ve been barred from posting truthfully here LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;either my post was gobbled up by the internet monster or I&#8217;ve been barred from posting truthfully here LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Candy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tony - I tend to agree with you.  I didn&#039;t really realize it but when I sold on Ebay the money would accumulate in my Paypal account and I found myself buying (sometimes by impulse) on Ebay because the money was there and handy.  I realize I just don&#039;t do that anymore because I&#039;m not selling there and just don&#039;t have that spare money.  You do have a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tony &#8211; I tend to agree with you.  I didn&#8217;t really realize it but when I sold on Ebay the money would accumulate in my Paypal account and I found myself buying (sometimes by impulse) on Ebay because the money was there and handy.  I realize I just don&#8217;t do that anymore because I&#8217;m not selling there and just don&#8217;t have that spare money.  You do have a point.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking about selling the odd item or two again on ebay for almost twelve months now, but everytime I go to the site I see another change that gives me absolutely no confidence in the management.

As others have pointed out, sellers also buy, I know I did when I sold their previously. I buy the odd thing or two now on ebay but I&#039;m nowhere near as involved as I once was and I have absolutely no intention of spending my time and effort trying to make a few quid on the side with a company who keep making it clear by their policy decisions that they don&#039;t want small sellers.

Actions speak far louder than words, I can assure you and the actions of ebay&#039;s management have certainly spoken to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about selling the odd item or two again on ebay for almost twelve months now, but everytime I go to the site I see another change that gives me absolutely no confidence in the management.</p>
<p>As others have pointed out, sellers also buy, I know I did when I sold their previously. I buy the odd thing or two now on ebay but I&#8217;m nowhere near as involved as I once was and I have absolutely no intention of spending my time and effort trying to make a few quid on the side with a company who keep making it clear by their policy decisions that they don&#8217;t want small sellers.</p>
<p>Actions speak far louder than words, I can assure you and the actions of ebay&#8217;s management have certainly spoken to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Mallabo</title>
		<link>http://ebayinkblog.com/2009/01/21/ebay-inc-reports-fourth-quarter-and-full-year-2008-results/comment-page-1/#comment-8314</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose Mallabo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Candy - Thank you for your question/comment regarding that point we made in our earnings release.  The data behind that point is Nielsen unique visitor traffic for October, November and December across the US, Germany and United Kingdom.  Based on that aggregate unique visitor figure, eBay was the number one e-commerce site.  We choose those regions because they are our top revenue and GMV markets for eBay.  

However, if you look at comScore figures published just 2 days ago eBay was number one in unique visitors globally for December.  See this link http://www.comscore.com/press/release.asp?press=2696

No doubt it was a tough quarter and the economy continue to erode consumer confidence, the business model as a whole showed relative stability and strength -- driving more than $500 million in cash flows for Q4.  

Going back to the point you asked about with unique visitors and the holiday, this is made more interesting as we made a strategic shift away from mass marketing to drive customer acquisition to focus more on buyer and customer loyalty programs.

We think these metrics are important to show our reach across the still growing e-commerce market, but as we also stated our long-term focus for eBay is sold items across these and all of our markets.

Sincerely,

Jose Mallabo
Director, Financial/Corporate Communications
eBay Inc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Candy &#8211; Thank you for your question/comment regarding that point we made in our earnings release.  The data behind that point is Nielsen unique visitor traffic for October, November and December across the US, Germany and United Kingdom.  Based on that aggregate unique visitor figure, eBay was the number one e-commerce site.  We choose those regions because they are our top revenue and GMV markets for eBay.  </p>
<p>However, if you look at comScore figures published just 2 days ago eBay was number one in unique visitors globally for December.  See this link <a href="http://www.comscore.com/press/release.asp?press=2696" rel="nofollow">http://www.comscore.com/press/release.asp?press=2696</a></p>
<p>No doubt it was a tough quarter and the economy continue to erode consumer confidence, the business model as a whole showed relative stability and strength &#8212; driving more than $500 million in cash flows for Q4.  </p>
<p>Going back to the point you asked about with unique visitors and the holiday, this is made more interesting as we made a strategic shift away from mass marketing to drive customer acquisition to focus more on buyer and customer loyalty programs.</p>
<p>We think these metrics are important to show our reach across the still growing e-commerce market, but as we also stated our long-term focus for eBay is sold items across these and all of our markets.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Jose Mallabo<br />
Director, Financial/Corporate Communications<br />
eBay Inc.</p>
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		<title>By: Gail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Richard.  You did a good job Twittering the earnings call.  Here&#039;s your beer! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Richard.  You did a good job Twittering the earnings call.  Here&#8217;s your beer! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Buchannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Buchannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your commenters remain very much the disgruntled small sellers who focus only on your legacy auction business.  I&#039;ve been pretty critical of some changes management has made, but it&#039;s clear that most of the Street and media haven&#039;t yet looked at what Ebay Inc. as a whole with all of its revenue streams.  I still believe all these changes to core business had to be made -- probably 2 - 3 years ago.  And if you look at what the company (not ebay.com) would be financially minus PayPal, Skype, StubHub and classifieds it&#039;d be a true mess.  No one seems to see that minus these businesses that is about $3 BILLION less in sales annually.  THREE BILLION DOLLLARS less.

Keep up the good work, Richard.  Don&#039;t let the complainers keep you from doing what you have to do.

Cheers,
Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your commenters remain very much the disgruntled small sellers who focus only on your legacy auction business.  I&#8217;ve been pretty critical of some changes management has made, but it&#8217;s clear that most of the Street and media haven&#8217;t yet looked at what Ebay Inc. as a whole with all of its revenue streams.  I still believe all these changes to core business had to be made &#8212; probably 2 &#8211; 3 years ago.  And if you look at what the company (not ebay.com) would be financially minus PayPal, Skype, StubHub and classifieds it&#8217;d be a true mess.  No one seems to see that minus these businesses that is about $3 BILLION less in sales annually.  THREE BILLION DOLLLARS less.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work, Richard.  Don&#8217;t let the complainers keep you from doing what you have to do.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Dan</p>
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