Comments on: Stranded http://ebayinkblog.com/2008/07/09/stranded/ an inside look at the wide world of eBay, Inc. Wed, 23 May 2012 23:19:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: dimes http://ebayinkblog.com/2008/07/09/stranded/comment-page-1/#comment-4747 dimes Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:31:41 +0000 http://ebayinkblog.com/?p=144#comment-4747 There is a California law that applies to travel companies that requires them to provide refunds 30 days after notifying customers that their travel purchases will not be honored, or be subject to penalties and fines. It's referred to in post #1000 on the eBay thread about the Points of Light ripoff: http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?threadID=1000730763&start=1000 and the statute is here: http://ag.ca.gov/travel/pdf/statutes_2007.pdf If POL announced on July 4th that it was closing the store and future travel buys would not be serviced, I think this may its last day to make refunds without falling afoul of that law. Does anyone know if complaints have been filed with the CA Attorney General? I believe the POL spokesperson refers to an investigation being done by the Washington DC Attorney General, but don't recall hearing about other state complaints. There is a California law that applies to travel companies that requires them to provide refunds 30 days after notifying customers that their travel purchases will not be honored, or be subject to penalties and fines.

It’s referred to in post #1000 on the eBay thread about the Points of Light ripoff:
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?threadID=1000730763&start=1000

and the statute is here:
http://ag.ca.gov/travel/pdf/statutes_2007.pdf

If POL announced on July 4th that it was closing the store and future travel buys would not be serviced, I think this may its last day to make refunds without falling afoul of that law.

Does anyone know if complaints have been filed with the CA Attorney General?

I believe the POL spokesperson refers to an investigation being done by the Washington DC Attorney General, but don’t recall hearing about other state complaints.

]]> By: Carol http://ebayinkblog.com/2008/07/09/stranded/comment-page-1/#comment-4743 Carol Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:37:40 +0000 http://ebayinkblog.com/?p=144#comment-4743 It is well over the 30 days and most of us have been left with nothing. No communication, no trip, no refund. This is not well done by points of light. They needed to hire the people to be able to refer to specific claims when called. I could be waiting for months with no hope of any communication because they won't allow it. It is well over the 30 days and most of us have been left with nothing. No communication, no trip, no refund. This is not well done by points of light. They needed to hire the people to be able to refer to specific claims when called.
I could be waiting for months with no hope of any communication because they won’t allow it.

]]> By: Patricia1 http://ebayinkblog.com/2008/07/09/stranded/comment-page-1/#comment-4583 Patricia1 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:14:34 +0000 http://ebayinkblog.com/?p=144#comment-4583 "It is sad when charities get ripped off. Is it not sadder still when charities rip off the public. I know that hundreds of buyers of these trips feel extremely ripped off, cheated and heartbroken" Rip-offs will follow a charity forever. Ask United Way - their scandal in the late 1980's is still following them around like toilet paper stuck to a shoe! “It is sad when charities get ripped off. Is it not sadder still when charities rip off the public. I know that hundreds of buyers of these trips feel extremely ripped off, cheated and heartbroken”

Rip-offs will follow a charity forever. Ask United Way – their scandal in the late 1980′s is still following them around like toilet paper stuck to a shoe!

]]> By: Angie http://ebayinkblog.com/2008/07/09/stranded/comment-page-1/#comment-4582 Angie Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:32:31 +0000 http://ebayinkblog.com/?p=144#comment-4582 I called the American Airlines phone # that was provided by Sharon at POL, and American Airlines will NOT give my pricing. They told me that I have to wait for them to call me. This entire process has been heartbreaking, ill managed, and just sad. Shame Shame Shame on POL and their heartless ways. I filed my 6 refunds on 7/5/08 and have not heard a peep or rec'd a refund. If anyone had better luck with American Airlines and getting pricing, please post that or e-mail me. Good luck to everyone affected by this terrible situation. I called the American Airlines phone # that was provided by Sharon at POL, and American Airlines will NOT give my pricing. They told me that I have to wait for them to call me. This entire process has been heartbreaking, ill managed, and just sad. Shame Shame Shame on POL and their heartless ways. I filed my 6 refunds on 7/5/08 and have not heard a peep or rec’d a refund. If anyone had better luck with American Airlines and getting pricing, please post that or e-mail me. Good luck to everyone affected by this terrible situation.

]]> By: Sharon http://ebayinkblog.com/2008/07/09/stranded/comment-page-1/#comment-4572 Sharon Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:14:28 +0000 http://ebayinkblog.com/?p=144#comment-4572 Hello, this is Sharon, a representative for Points of Light. I wanted to provide an update on this situation as I know you have a lot of concerns. First, an update on refunds… The first wave of refund checks were mailed out on Friday, July 18. The plan moving forward is to send small batches of checks at regular intervals until the last verified claim is paid. The order in which we are processing refunds is dictated by the availability of verifiable data. We considered a number of alternatives, and determined that this approach is the best way to issue the most refunds as quickly as possible, so we appreciate your patience as we work to refund all buyers. Each time we mail out a batch of checks, we will notify the recipients via email so they know to expect their checks. We are working as quickly as possible to review the refund requests and go through our verification process. This process requires many checks and balances, and is being overseen by a Top 5 professional accounting firm. It is a highly structured activity, and may be slower than we would all like, but we want to get it right the first time. Likely your big question will be “what about my refund?” Unfortunately, our Customer Care team cannot provide information about specific refunds. Calling or writing them will not give you any further insight on the status of your claim. We understand and appreciate that this may be frustrating, but we greatly appreciate your patience as we work through this stage of our resolution. Rest assured that your refund is coming. Also, news on booked travel… We have provided American Airlines and Fairmont hotels with lists of all customers who had booked flights and reservations when the eStore closure was announced. I have been told that they are working with affected customers who already had reservations who are still interested in traveling. Unfortunately, they will not be able to help customers who had not booked travel when the closure was announced. If you already had an American Airlines booking, you can call their Meeting Services Department at 800-433-1790 for help with their best-available price on your seats. Only customers who had an AA Record Locator (which we have provided to American) will qualify for this special consideration. Please note that if you want your flight, you must purchase it from American at least 7 days before your travel date. Soon, they will begin to cancel unpaid seats 7 days prior to travel. Finally, you must contact American before August 15th to purchase your booked flight under this special arrangement. We are extremely grateful for our partnership with American Airlines and Fairmont, and for their support and assistance. For more information, please visit the Frequently Asked Questions section on the Points Of Light Web site, at - http://www.pointsoflight.org/estore/faq.html. Again, please rest assured that if you were an affected buyer with travel scheduled after July 15, your refund is coming. Please understand that we need to follow a detailed process to ensure everything is done correctly. Thank you. Hello, this is Sharon, a representative for Points of Light. I wanted to provide an update on this situation as I know you have a lot of concerns.

First, an update on refunds…
The first wave of refund checks were mailed out on Friday, July 18.

The plan moving forward is to send small batches of checks at regular intervals until the last verified claim is paid. The order in which we are processing refunds is dictated by the availability of verifiable data. We considered a number of alternatives, and determined that this approach is the best way to issue the most refunds as quickly as possible, so we appreciate your patience as we work to refund all buyers. Each time we mail out a batch of checks, we will notify the recipients via email so they know to expect their checks.

We are working as quickly as possible to review the refund requests and go through our verification process. This process requires many checks and balances, and is being overseen by a Top 5 professional accounting firm. It is a highly structured activity, and may be slower than we would all like, but we want to get it right the first time.

Likely your big question will be “what about my refund?” Unfortunately, our Customer Care team cannot provide information about specific refunds. Calling or writing them will not give you any further insight on the status of your claim. We understand and appreciate that this may be frustrating, but we greatly appreciate your patience as we work through this stage of our resolution. Rest assured that your refund is coming.

Also, news on booked travel…
We have provided American Airlines and Fairmont hotels with lists of all customers who had booked flights and reservations when the eStore closure was announced. I have been told that they are working with affected customers who already had reservations who are still interested in traveling. Unfortunately, they will not be able to help customers who had not booked travel when the closure was announced.

If you already had an American Airlines booking, you can call their Meeting Services Department at 800-433-1790 for help with their best-available price on your seats. Only customers who had an AA Record Locator (which we have provided to American) will qualify for this special consideration.

Please note that if you want your flight, you must purchase it from American at least 7 days before your travel date. Soon, they will begin to cancel unpaid seats 7 days prior to travel. Finally, you must contact American before August 15th to purchase your booked flight under this special arrangement.

We are extremely grateful for our partnership with American Airlines and Fairmont, and for their support and assistance.

For more information, please visit the Frequently Asked Questions section on the Points Of Light Web site, at – http://www.pointsoflight.org/estore/faq.html.

Again, please rest assured that if you were an affected buyer with travel scheduled after July 15, your refund is coming. Please understand that we need to follow a detailed process to ensure everything is done correctly.

Thank you.

]]> By: JUST MJ http://ebayinkblog.com/2008/07/09/stranded/comment-page-1/#comment-4261 JUST MJ Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:19:05 +0000 http://ebayinkblog.com/?p=144#comment-4261 It is sad when charities get ripped off. Is it not sadder still when charities rip off the public. I know that hundreds of buyers of these trips feel extremely ripped off, cheated and heartbroken. Points of Light is not the victim here, they are the purpetrator. How can they have an EBay store as big as it was and not know what was happening with it. Please! This is bad business, charity or no. It is sad when charities get ripped off. Is it not sadder still when charities rip off the public. I know that hundreds of buyers of these trips feel extremely ripped off, cheated and heartbroken. Points of Light is not the victim here, they are the purpetrator. How can they have an EBay store as big as it was and not know what was happening with it. Please! This is bad business, charity or no.

]]> By: dimes http://ebayinkblog.com/2008/07/09/stranded/comment-page-1/#comment-4230 dimes Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:23:37 +0000 http://ebayinkblog.com/?p=144#comment-4230 I'm confused. Why was a non-profit organization selling travel vouchers? Does that affect the ability of anyone who has been ripped off to sue them if they do not receive a refund? (Ie, were their payments considered to be charity donations?) I’m confused.

Why was a non-profit organization selling travel vouchers?

Does that affect the ability of anyone who has been ripped off to sue them if they do not receive a refund? (Ie, were their payments considered to be charity donations?)

]]> By: AL http://ebayinkblog.com/2008/07/09/stranded/comment-page-1/#comment-4229 AL Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:42:10 +0000 http://ebayinkblog.com/?p=144#comment-4229 The customer care line they set up is useless. they only say 2 things: "sorry" and "someone will eventually contact you" No information at all. Someone needs to step up and give all of us who lost money and had travel plans coming up soon the TRUTH!!!!! not a runaround about how we can expect a refund. We need concrete answers! The customer care line they set up is useless. they only say 2 things: “sorry” and “someone will eventually contact you” No information at all. Someone needs to step up and give all of us who lost money and had travel plans coming up soon the TRUTH!!!!! not a runaround about how we can expect a refund. We need concrete answers!

]]> By: Carol http://ebayinkblog.com/2008/07/09/stranded/comment-page-1/#comment-4228 Carol Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:28:53 +0000 http://ebayinkblog.com/?p=144#comment-4228 Many people have been impacted by this! My daughter was scheduled to leave 7/18 for London. Cancelled on 7/5 and she had paid for this trip last October. The trust and safety discussion boards on ebay are full of extremely sad stories and very angry people. If points of light refunds money, we will be okay. Many others however, have had weddings cancelled or incurred quite a few additional costs at their former destination that they can't be refunded for. Incidently, Points of light told everyone they would be contacted within 24 hours of filing a claim. Has not happened. Many people have been impacted by this! My daughter was scheduled to leave 7/18 for London. Cancelled on 7/5 and she had paid for this trip last October. The trust and safety discussion boards on ebay are full of extremely sad stories and very angry people.
If points of light refunds money, we will be okay. Many others however, have had weddings cancelled or incurred quite a few additional costs at their former destination that they can’t be refunded for.

Incidently, Points of light told everyone they would be contacted within 24 hours of filing a claim. Has not happened.

]]> By: Patricia1 http://ebayinkblog.com/2008/07/09/stranded/comment-page-1/#comment-4223 Patricia1 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:21:21 +0000 http://ebayinkblog.com/?p=144#comment-4223 (henrietta - tried to answer your email but it kept getting kicked back) (henrietta – tried to answer your email but it kept getting kicked back)

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